ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
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ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
Last night I replaced my ZZ4's starter while 3 sheets to the wind. No biggie. Easy job. EXCEPT... Something seems a little goofy with the wires. It doesn't help that I didn't think to photograph the arrangement before I started work.
I could have sworn the starter had an even distribution of 3 wires each on the two screw posts on the side of the starter body, but when I consider the size of the terminal eyelets, logically, the distribution should be 2 and 4. The no-brainers are the battery cable and two other cables that I distinctively remember removing from the large brass-colored screw post (1/2" nut) on the side of the starter body. If I recall, those wires were all in red insulation.
I also recall removing the 2 smaller wires with tiny eyelets from the small black screw post (1/4" nut). One had red insulation and the other black.
I was left with one oddball that I couldn't remember to which post it was connected. It was a black wire that had a large eyelet terminal. I can't think of the wire's gauge off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure it was the same as the wires with the tiny eyelets. (I know, super technical and informative, huh? I'm nowhere near the trike right now.) Anyhow, I can't imagine trying to sandwich that big eyelet between the two smaller eyelets on that tiny screw post and hope it will actually stay in place. Good sense tells me that it came off of the large screw post, but the 2 and 4 arrangement bothers me. (I hope I haven't confused you.)
All this malarky said...
Is there anyone out there with an early model ZZ4 (my Hoss is a 2001) equipped with a regular ignition switch and an auxiliary direct-connect starter button who can take a look at the wire leads coming off their starter to verify placement and/or post a photo? I might end up having to remove some conduit and physically trace wires and/or use a multimeter to sort it out. I figured I'd start here first. The last thing I need is to cook my replacement starter.
Thank you.
I could have sworn the starter had an even distribution of 3 wires each on the two screw posts on the side of the starter body, but when I consider the size of the terminal eyelets, logically, the distribution should be 2 and 4. The no-brainers are the battery cable and two other cables that I distinctively remember removing from the large brass-colored screw post (1/2" nut) on the side of the starter body. If I recall, those wires were all in red insulation.
I also recall removing the 2 smaller wires with tiny eyelets from the small black screw post (1/4" nut). One had red insulation and the other black.
I was left with one oddball that I couldn't remember to which post it was connected. It was a black wire that had a large eyelet terminal. I can't think of the wire's gauge off the top of my head, but I'm pretty sure it was the same as the wires with the tiny eyelets. (I know, super technical and informative, huh? I'm nowhere near the trike right now.) Anyhow, I can't imagine trying to sandwich that big eyelet between the two smaller eyelets on that tiny screw post and hope it will actually stay in place. Good sense tells me that it came off of the large screw post, but the 2 and 4 arrangement bothers me. (I hope I haven't confused you.)
All this malarky said...
Is there anyone out there with an early model ZZ4 (my Hoss is a 2001) equipped with a regular ignition switch and an auxiliary direct-connect starter button who can take a look at the wire leads coming off their starter to verify placement and/or post a photo? I might end up having to remove some conduit and physically trace wires and/or use a multimeter to sort it out. I figured I'd start here first. The last thing I need is to cook my replacement starter.
Thank you.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
All my 06 wires are black - sorry I can't help.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
HA! Yeah, I'm gonna have to trace these things. No biggie. That's how it goes. I'm fairly confident they are on the right screw posts though, based on the sizes of the terminals.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
Should only be one smaller gauge wire on the small post from the start switch. On the big post, the battery hot wire and anything with a permanent live such as to the ignition switch
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
Do you have a wiring diagram
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
Excellent! No, I definitely don't have a wiring diagram. I'm pretty sure one of the extra pair of wires is coming from the starter bypass switch. The third pair might have something to do with that remote continuous duty solenoid/relay thing (I can't remember the exact name) that's mounted on the frame behind the fuse block.
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
This diagram is for my 96. I haven’t got a continuous cycle thingy.The Mindless Philosopher wrote:Excellent! No, I definitely don't have a wiring diagram. I'm pretty sure one of the extra pair of wires is coming from the starter bypass switch. The third pair might have something to do with that remote continuous duty solenoid/relay thing (I can't remember the exact name) that's mounted on the frame behind the fuse block.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
I wish mine didn't have one. It's wired up like an octopus, and it never lasts for very long.knockdolian wrote: This diagram is for my 96. I haven’t got a continuous cycle thingy.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
Fortunately or unfortunately I had a bit of a fire so retired the whole thing. What does the thingy do anyway ?
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
I don't know its purpose, to be honest. I've never owned a Chevy 350 automobile with one of these continuous duty golf cart solenoids, so I don't know why my Chevy 350 trike has one. At first, I thought it was a remote starter solenoid, but no.
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Re: ZZ4 Starter Wires Question
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Excellent! Thank you!Orlando565 wrote:2001-2002 Main Harness